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		<title>Episode 128 – Elabor8-ing the Agile BA with Ryan McKergow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Originally posted on <a href="http://theagilerevolution.com/2017/05/04/episode-128-elabor8-ing-the-agile-ba-with-ryan-mckergow/">The Agile Revolution Podcast</a>: <br />Craig chats with Ryan McKergow, a Business Analyst and Agile Consultant at Elabor8, at the YOW! West conference in Perth about being an Agile BA: Business Analysts work with business people to understand the problem they want to solve and then work with developers to take those expectations&#8230;<img alt="" border="0" src="https://pixel.wp.com/b.gif?host=craigsmith.id.au&#38;blog=1253279&#38;post=2186&#38;subd=cds43&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1">]]></description>
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<p><a href="https://cds43.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ryanmckergow1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1061" src="https://cds43.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ryanmckergow1.jpg?w=300&#038;h=275" height="275" width="300"></a>Craig chats with <a href="https://twitter.com/rmckergow">Ryan McKergow</a>, a Business Analyst and Agile Consultant at <a href="https://elabor8.com.au/">Elabor8</a>, at the <a href="http://west.yowconference.com.au/">YOW! West</a> conference in Perth about being an Agile BA:</p>

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<li>Business Analysts work with business people to understand the problem they want to solve and then work with developers to take those expectations and help them build the system</li>
<li>Writing stories and requirements is the boring part of the job – the exciting part is getting different people problem solving together</li>
<li>Paul Rayner’s YOW! West “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXm8Cznyb_s">EventStorming</a>” keynote and <a href="https://theagilerevolution.com/2017/04/28/episode-127-storming-dds-with-paul-rayner/">Craig’s brainwave around Value Stream Mapping </a>
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<li>Ryan’s talk “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvgBANe_6-Q">Don’t Be A Zombie Reading Your Stories…</a>” at YOW! West</li>
<li>Story Kickoff – having a conversation at the start of a story (one of the three C’s), get the whole team in front of a whiteboard and drawing it out</li>
<li>Reduce the amount of time between analysis and development as much as possible…</li>
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		<title>Episode 128 – Elabor8-ing the Agile BA with Ryan McKergow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2017 13:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Minimal Viable Agilist</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 06:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renee Troughton]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been doing some hiring lately. The two roles I have been hiring for are a Scrum Master and a Business Analyst. I used the opportunity to test my recruitment questionaire &#8211; questions that I am expecting the organisation to ask in the future when I am no longer there in order to ensure &#8230; <br /><br /><a href="https://agileforest.com/2016/01/23/minimal-viable-agilist/">Continue reading</a>]]></description>
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<p>I have been doing some hiring lately. The two roles I have been hiring for are a Scrum Master and a Business Analyst. I used the opportunity to test my recruitment questionaire &#8211; questions that I am expecting the organisation to ask in the future when I am no longer there in order to ensure that they are getting quality candidates into the roles.</p>
<p>The questions had some basic Agile bits, the sort to ensure that we were getting people who culturally understood T-shaping, the values and principles of Agile &#8211; not that they had to ring them off by rote, but they knew and understood what it felt like to experience them.</p>
<p>And then there were the role specific questions. For the Scrum Masters the test predominantly comprised a series of pictures with a question per picture. An example (without showing the picture) was &#8220;Take a moment to orient yourself to this wall &#8211; what issues do you see with the team/the work?&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Scrum Master applicant passed the basic Agile questions and the wall picture questions, stage three was getting them to demonstrate facilitating in a mock scenario.</p>
<p>Somewhat thankfully our search for a Scrum Master didn&#8217;t last too long &#8211; candidates that recruiters passed through to us all failed abismally. All of them didn&#8217;t even pass through the first stage to begin asking the picture based questions. Feeling despondent we did the whole &#8216;Who do we know who can do the job and are actively looking?&#8217; thing. Interestingly they passed all three components of the test quickly.</p>
<p>So then the challenge was finding a Business Analyst, and that was indeed difficult. We had resumes without even a reference to the word &#8216;stories&#8217;, &#8216;Agile&#8217; or &#8216;Scrum&#8217; being put forward by recruiters despite being exceptionally clear that we were looking for Business Analysts who had strong experience in an Agile environment.</p>
<p>There were a couple that got through to stage two testing &#8211; but they were few and far between, many of our interviews got cut at 10 or 15 minutes.</p>
<p>It was very frustrating; we weren&#8217;t asking questions that were hard &#8211; we were asking questions that anyone who cares about being good at their job should be able to know the answers to.</p>
<p>So let me put this as simple as I can &#8211; if you aspire to be an Agile Business Analyst, or you think you are worthy of being an Agile Business Analyst and selling yourself as one, then these are the things I feel you should be able to answer (naturally these questions are more fluidic and are asked when a conversational element exposes their relevancy):</p>
<ol>
<li>How do you decompose something down from a big idea to something that can be delivered by the team?</li>
<li>What qualities does a good user story have?</li>
<li>How do you know when a user story is small enough?</li>
<li>If you had a user story that was too big, what are the different strategies you would think of/use to try and break it down further?</li>
<li>What is the difference between Acceptance Criteria and Definition of Done?</li>
<li>On average how many Acceptance Criteria do you have per user story?</li>
</ol>
<p>If the answers to the above questions are correct then the interview goes onto stage two &#8211; scenario testing. Similar to the Scrum Master test we provide a simple User Story and ask the person to define some Acceptance Criteria. Then we ask them to look at a number of poorly formed User Stories and tell us what is wrong with them.</p>
<p>Stage three, like the Scrum Master is practical, asks for a demonstration of analytical and breakdown skills through a scenario, ultimately to test facilitation skills and on the spot thinking.</p>
<p>Now I won&#8217;t reveal the answers to the questions above, but if you feel like giving a try and responding in the comments you are welcome to. Additionally I have left out some of the thinking processes that we have been looking for but I can reveal that answers like &#8220;I just do what I did back in waterfall &#8211; I talk to people and write the requirements. Business Analysis is no different in Agile than in a Waterfall environment,&#8221; is probably not going to get you the job.</p>
<p>But through all these interviews what I was most surprised with was how little people cared about the quality of their skills in their chosen profession. I am often frustrated and don&#8217;t know the answer as to why people know so little about their profession. Here are some possible root causes I have conceived of but I don&#8217;t know which is the right answer (I suspect it varies based on the person):</p>
<ol>
<li>I am too busy doing my job to learn how to be more effective in it (too much work)</li>
<li>I work hard when at work, in my down time I don&#8217;t want to think about work or read about things related to my job, I just want to relax</li>
<li>I studied at school and for my degree, I was so glad when that was over I didn&#8217;t really want to study anymore</li>
<li>I am awesome and don&#8217;t need to know any more/get better</li>
<li>I am sick of people telling me what to do and how to do it, I am just going to do the smallest thing I have to in order to get my paycheck.</li>
<li>Understanding this change threatens my job in some way</li>
<li>I get by, no one else has commented on how I do my job</li>
</ol>
<p>And so the ultimate question that it came down to in the interviews were &#8220;What is a Minimum Viable Agilist?&#8221; To me it is a person that cares about their craft, that understands the value of spending time to make themselves better and in doing so making the product better.</p>
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